So there’s a bit of an uproar over a released or referenced or whatever extended scene from the “Captain Marvel” movie. In the original movie, some guy with a motorcycle makes a sexistish remark to Carol, and then she steals his motorcycle to get to where she was going. In the extended scene, after being told to smile, she invites him to give her a handshake, uses her strength to hurt his hand, and then demands his motorcycle from him, stealing clothes from a store mannequin to ride it (although, does she really need riding leathers given that she has a super suit anyway? While he calls it a scuba suit and so it might stand out, it’s not really that much different from just being an odd motorcycle suit).
You can see the video at Dave Futrelle’s post on the topic, and if you know anything about him you’ll know that he’s only mentioning it because people on the at least anti-SJW side are complaining about how this makes Danvers a villain or, at least, not heroic. The one post he mentions on the topic is by Ashe Schow, which Futrelle mocks. More on that later.
For the most part, the Twitter comments and post he cites criticize Danvers here for, well, not being very heroic. What the extended scene certainly implies is that Danvers’ actions are taken as retribution for what he did, and not as a necessary evil because she has to get somewhere. As the original tweet from “USA Today” says:
Get an EXCLUSIVE first look at @BrieLarson taking on toxic masculinity (in the form of @RobertKazinsky) in this extended #CaptainMarvel scene: https://bit.ly/2M8OZhc
However, if she’s supposed to be a hero, it doesn’t look like what he did deserved that sort of retribution, especially since in order to do the “test of strength” thing she ends up inviting him to have a handshake, which is the only reason she can then use that to bully him into giving her his motorcycle. In the actual movie, she just takes it, which is better. And, of course, it doesn’t justify her stealing the clothes from the store either (which is one of Schow’s points).
Futrelle takes the common tack of Social Justice reasoning and says that we’d have no problem with this sort of behaviour if it came from a man:
The scene is a clear homage to a similar if much more violent scene in Terminator 2, in which a nude Arnold Schwarzenegger appropriates a motorcycle from a biker after squeezing his hand real hard (and then throwing him onto a hot stove, throwing another guy through a window, and thoroughly beating up a good portion of an ornery looking biker gang).
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In the original John Wick movie, for example, the titular hero seeks revenge after some thugs kill his dog — and in the process he manages to kill 77 people. (His body count across all three John Wick films? An even more staggering 299.) Yet we still root for the guy.
The problem is that neither of these characters are actually heroes. At best, they’re anti-heroes, although the Terminator had been the main villain in the first movie and so might well still be considered to be one at this point in the movie. So using them as examples isn’t all that great. Futrelle does try to relate it to how in movies the heroes will often commandeer vehicles and the like:
The trope of a movie hero or heroine stealing a car — or a truck, or a horse, or a motorcyle, or a spaceship — to get to where they need to go is nearly as old as the movies themselves.
However, this would entirely invalidate the line about “toxic masculinity” that the original tweet references, and that a number of people think is key to the scene. Even Futrelle himself thinks that:
Dudes, this is a movie, not a WikiHow video. No one is recommending that women literally steal a motorcycle every time a creep asks them to smile. It’s a fantasy in a film that’s all about fantasy. The scene is funny because it allows women (and men) to indulge a harmless fantasy of taking violent revenge against some of the most irritating men on the planet.
So she doesn’t do this because she needs a vehicle in the extended scene. She doesn’t do this because she needs a vehicle and she might as well take it from the mildly or even really annoying person who has one. It is critical to this scene that we see this as appropriate retribution for what the guy did when it doesn’t seem to be anywhere near that bad. And this was the heart of Ashe’s post:
Let’s recap. After a jerk suggested he would help her in a creepy way and asked for a smile, Danvers crushed his hand, carjacked him, took his clothes, and stole items from a nearby clothing store and broke traffic laws. And this is supposed to be a celebration of feminism and rebuke of toxic masculinity?
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Apparently, the answer to fairly mild toxic masculinity is extremely violent, chaotic, and criminally toxic femininity. As journalist Tim Pool wrote on Twitter, Danvers’ actions make her the “villain.”
Futrelle completely ignores that context in making his point. In the Terminator case, the scene is not there to show the Terminator beating up bikers as an elaborate revenge fantasy for the viewer. It’s supposed to play on the reputation they had for being both extremely tough and extremely mean to demonstrate to the audience — or, at least, remind them — just how tough the Terminator is, that it can take on a group of the toughest and meanest people out there and win without an issue. While I haven’t seen the “Captain Marvel” movie yet, it seems clear to me that at this point in the movie we are already aware of how tough she is and so clearly believe that this guy is absolutely no threat to her. Thus, the only point of the scene is to pay him back for his “crimes”, which seems disproportionate, especially since the handshake, again, only starts because she pretends to be friendly and offers one. The scene would have been better if he had, say, groped her or put a hand familiarly on her shoulder and in removing it she gripped it hard enough to cause pain and, out of utter frustration and annoyance, then decided to take his motorcycle, because at least she would have been just reacting to what he did spontaneously, as opposed to planning it.
Oh, and to make matters worse for Futrelle’s argument, Captain Marvel was hinted at taking over Captain America’s spot on the Avengers, and we already have an example of him commandeering a vehicle, from “Winter Solider”. You might say that this would only help make Futrelle’s case, as it would be an example where the hero steals a vehicle and no one cared, except when Natasha teases him about it he is insistent that they are “borrowing” it and, to forestall arguments that that’s rationalization, he immediately tells her to get her feet off the dash, clearly trying to make sure that they take care of the vehicle to at least attempt to return it in as good condition as possible (it might, unfortunately, have ended up blown up by the missile at the military base).
Now, one other possible motivation is to show Danvers growing in her role as a hero, showing that she was unconcerned about people and willing to do whatever it takes and not even look for other options but discovering that she can’t just be that sort of soldier and so has to be a hero. Given her start as a brainwashed soldier for the Kree, that makes sense here. Futrelle himself references that:
The critics of Captain Marvel’s motorcycle theft are not only forgetting that this is a MOVIE and not real life; they’re also completely ignoring the plot of the film — and the character arc of the air-force-pilot-turned alien-human-hybrid who became Captain Marvel.
When she arrives back on earth at the start of the film – and steals the motorcycle she needs to complete her mission — she’s basically a brainwashed, emotionless killing machine working for a race of aliens called the kree. Over the course of the film she regains some of her humanity. That’s called character development.
The problem is that, again, this trumps what the USA Today tweet highlighted in the scene. For this to work, we have to show that her actions were unjustified and disproportionate, and in the end she’d pretty much have to explicitly come to understand that what she did there was wrong. But to stand as an example of standing up to toxic masculinity, that can’t be the case. She’d have to not only be wrong, but be more wrong than the guy there. So we’d have to feel sympathy for how the guy was treated. Yes, for this to work we’d have to sympathize with the guy who is being used as an avatar for toxic masculinity. I … really don’t think that was the intent.
Look, the problem here is not that she commandeered a vehicle or put an annoying person in their place. The problem is that her actions are disproportionate to the “crimes” we see on screen and so she is presented as a bully and, yes, a villain. As pointed out, as a way to get her to grow out of that and become more of a hero, that could work. But the extended scene, as presented, relies on us seeing her actions as justified and not as disproportionate. It’s no surprise, then, that Futrelle starts by claiming it justified and then moves on to seeing it as showing a character flaw that she develops out of (if she does, as the end of the movie doesn’t necessarily show her in a new, less bullying light). So while the critics might have ulterior motives, the critics have a point. And the fact that it didn’t make it into the movie shows that the filmmakers themselves better understood those flaws than those making contorted arguments — like claiming that the DC characters’ actions, especially Superman destroying a trucker’s truck for annoying him, didn’t get called out when that’s one of the main complaints about the DC universe — to defend this scene do.
Elsinore finally gets a release date …
May 31, 2019So, a game that I’ve been somewhat following, Elsinore, is finally getting a release date. It’s slated to be released on July 22nd. Since it was originally supposed to be released in April 2016, this means that it’s only over three years late. As I have commented, this means that it can’t be considered an astounding success, but I have to give them credit for, in fact, actually sticking with it and finishing the game.
From the announcement, it seems that it will be available on Steam or on itchio. I don’t buy anything through Steam, but itchio should work, so it looks like I’m going to pick it up after it releases and see what the final result is. My prediction is not disaster, but unless they changed their philosophy from what it was in April 2016 it probably won’t be great either. Still, three extra years of development time does give you time to rethink things.
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